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  2. Good Day. Furthur from CTV News Ottawa...... https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/lrt-service-could-be-disrupted-until-friday-1.4770368 Quote : Officials said Friday ((sic)) that 80 metres of wire was pulled down just before 11 a.m. on Thursday. Peter Lauch, the head of Rideau Transit Group and Rideau Transit Maintenance, is apologizing for the disruption and says they are still working to find out exactly how the wire broke. Crews are working to fix the problem as quickly as possible. "The system actually did what it's supposed to do," Lauch said. "As soon as the event happened, power was de-energized and there was no live power anywhere. The doors opened under battery power." Lauch said Thursday afternoon that crews had removed the wire. The stalled train was moved out of the way late Thursday afternoon. UnQuote. EnJoy!
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  4. Good Day. I seem to have been borne out : https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-lrt-confederation-line-wire-broken-1.5429328 LRT could be halted until Friday CBC News · Posted: Jan 16, 2020 12:45 PM ET | Last Updated: a few seconds ago Quote : At around 10:50 a.m., the wire broke and apparently fell onto a train as it entered St-Laurent station, said Troy Charter, the City of Ottawa's director of transit operations, at a press conference Thursday afternoon. EnJoy!
  5. CBC Ottawa livestreamed the press conference on their facebook page. You can find it here : https://www.facebook.com/CBCOttawa/videos/1376561322526025/ Peter Lauch says the running theory is that the pantograph of the train might have snagged the catenary wire at the transition point where it changes from flexible wire to rigid. He also said that passengers on the train "wouldn't have been the wiser" as the trains are equipped with battery backup power for 90 minutes, so the lights would have stayed on and the doors would have opened. What is not clear is if the battery backup power can power the traction motors to move the train even at a low or crawl speed to the station. If the pantograph snagged the wire at the entrances of the station tunnel, depending on which direction it was coming from, it would either have needed to slow down or continue at low speed to the platform to disembark passengers then assess the situation. 80 metres of wire fell. The rigid catenary is actually a metal beam with a wire on the underside. So that would explain where the wire that was damaged came from. Not the best scenario for the O-Train to experience but seemingly a good "test" that the train can get people off and not immobilize before reaching the platform in such an incident. So that is good to know. Also it was noted that when the system detected a problem or fluctuation, the power was cut and the system de-energized, so the loose wire was not a risk or live. The plan now is to move the vehicles. There are two trains coupled together, one has the pantograph that is inoperable as the wire is down, but the other vehicle's pantograph is able to reach intact wire and receive power. Once the area is re-energized, they will raise that pantograph and use that train to pull the other train out of the station to clear space to effectuate the repairs. This seems to bring us new information on the capabilities of the trains in that one single train can push or pull another single. More details to come I'm sure.
  6. Lyon station's integration of double elevators on either end of the spacious, designed-for-the-future mezzanine level works very well. Like Lyon Station, Rideau station has double elevators from the street (Rideau Centre entrance and ScotiaBank pavilion), however, breaking the mezzanine into easterly and westerly components with a large break in between (which allows for the cathedral-like vaulted look of the central part of the station), means that vertical circulation can't work as well as at Lyon. For example, even though both east and west platforms at Rideau station each have two elevators, breaking the mezzanine level into two sections means that if an elevator is broken on one side of the station, say eastbound from the Rideau Centre access, the only way for a mobility-challenged individual to reach the platform is to descend by elevator to the westbound platform, then ascend via the second easterly elevator on the westbound platform, and, hopefully, descend again to the eastbound platform via the easterly elevator to that platform. Parliament station is different. Though planners identified it as likely to be the busiest station on the line, only two elevators from the street to the mezzanine level were constructed (a point noted with some consternation by many Twitter posters). This is interesting because (I've done the actual measurements myself) the Parliament station train platforms are the only ones of the three underground station platforms to already have been built fully out; by my measurements the current finished station platforms are ever so slightly longer than 120m/400f. Though it takes a bit of calculation (as Parliament station's mezzanine does not extend as far east or west as the train platforms beneath it and the eastern, unused, part of the platform is partly enclosed by a staff area) I've also measured how far the train platforms extend in an easterly direction from underneath the eastern side of the vault housing the long escalator/stairs that run between the mezzanine level and the lower level of Heritage Place. I might stand corrected but the currently completed train platforms extend far enough to the east, past the World Exchange Centre's parking ramps, to have allowed for a second set of two elevators to be placed on the south side of Queen Street, east of O'Connor and in front of World Exchange Plaza. This didn't happen, however, and one also can find 2012 reference to five Memorandums of Understanding among the City and property owners adjacent to the DOTT. These Memorandums are not public documents, however, and so it's pretty much impossible to know (I'm speculating a bit) what was in the Memorandum between the City and World Exchange Plaza. Doubtless money plays a key role in what looks to have been a change of plans at some point during the construction process. Online press references from 2012 also mention the second major street exit from Parliament station as located in front of World Exchange Plaza, in a similar configuration to the elevators now in place on the west side of O'Connor. The current exit, through Heritage Place, is listed in 2012 as a "potential" third exit. The end result is only two elevators to the street at the busiest station on the line. Vertical access between the mezzanine and train platforms, however, is equal to Lyon station and superior to Rideau station. I've visited over 40 subway/metro/LRT systems around the world. Despite all the teething difficulties the Confederation Line continues to experience (and which I believe will be pretty much fully resolved in time) it's still the metro with the best overall vertical access I've seen. There could be more down escalators (and that was the intention as is evident in early architectural renderings of system stations such as Hurdman--the potential to convert several double-wide staircases into a down escalator and still plenty wide staircase exists) but all-in-all the Confederation line, when all systems are working, is the most accessible metro I've been on.
  7. Good Day. Pure hypothesis..... that the train snagged the cat wire just prior to entering the station and it's cat solid rail, and pulled a length into the station with it ? Whatever it may be, this is a major 'snag' ! I have to think it will take awhile to fix - like probably the rest of today and the maint period overnight. EnJoy!
  8. New update has been released just now: On our St-Laurent station page (https://www.otrainfans.ca/confederation-stations/st-laurent) it is clear in the photos that the catenary is a rigid catenary and not a suspended wire like it is elsewhere outdoors. Still unclear what the wire being shown in the picture is from.
  9. Good Day. This 29 second video from CTV News Ottawa shows a train ?in? the station, with what looks like a power wire draped over car #1118. ! WOW ! https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1877699 EnJoy!
  10. I love the O-train, and I think the Mayor is doing a good job at running things, but seriously what's with the RTM and their amateur low-tier level design and terrible management??? Seriously, train system like those run all over Europe, at-grade with traffic, in winter condition more extreme than ours, and the reliability of their system is so far above ours, I'm speechless... I'm not sure if it's just Ottawa or something with North Americans in general, but this is just sad
  11. The City of Ottawa just released this memo in regards to the stopped train at St-Laurent station this morning. If I am not mistaken, this would be the first incident of this sort on the line since opening to the public. I am not sure of the specifics as I am fairly sure the catenary in St-Laurent station is a rigid rail, and not a wire. I am assuming that the break did not occur at the station itself then. More updates are promised, so I'm sure this will be clarified.
  12. That’s exactly why. Even during construction of Stage 1 it wasn’t fully decided as the EA and design process was ongoing. As for the low-floor / high-floor, I think we are over-estimating how much of a difference it would make, as we would fall in the heavy-rail / metro territory. Essentially we’d be trading seating for standing-room (which I believe is a fair-trade, but not most users apparently...).
  13. Subway closed a long-time ago (as in before I moved to Ottawa), and there was a Ministry of Coffee that opened last year if I recall? Either way, the food offering was never a strong point and I don’t think there are plans for it to be expanded beyond vending machines and coffee shop sandwiches... Part of why I started traveling business on ViaRail and why I generally go for a snack before heading there! As for the renovations, its a two part project: first is an expansion of the business lounge, that would be on the Eastern side. Western side is being reconfigured though I don’t know the scope of work.
  14. I agree completely with this idea. Although the Quebec government's indication that it will pick the tab for STO/Outaouais light rail (and the Portage crossing this envisions) could be influencing the city's (financial) thinking . . .
  15. I agree that's the best argument for rail over the PoW. The STO study focused on having STO service cross the bridge, and I agree with their conclusion that Bayview does not have the layout or capacity as a main transfer-point between STO and OC Transpo. As far as I can tell, Mayor Watson has taken this conclusion more broadly to say that Bayview is not adequate for any transfers to and from the Québec side. However, as a Trillium "line" station, we might even get a better flow than what is currently projected, with south-enders heading directly to Hull, saving them two transfers over a very short distance, and free-up space on the Confederation Line for those who will embark from the LeBreton area (as it gets redeveloped). West-enders would have a choice between transferring at Bayview or Lyon (likely transfer point for between Confederation and the Hull-Aylmer tram) while most east-enders would likely transfer at Lyon. Only a handful of Gatineau riders, those who work at Tunney's or Confederation Heights, possibly attend Carleton, would transfer to Trillium. In conclusion, having Trillium cross to the Québec side would greatly reduce the strain on Bayview, allowing it to better serve the local (expected to be very dense) community.
  16. Jim Watson We’ve had conflicting reports regarding the future of the PoW. Is there still a possibility that the Trillium Line might one day cross over to Gatineau using the PoW? could we change to: In the past you have indicated Trillium Line extension north across Prince of Wales Bridge would be coming. Could it still be included in Stage 3? If the Federal Government came through with 75% or 100% funding would it proceed quickly? Such a connection is important to people from the South and East so they can get to Terraces de la area (there is a siding across the street) or the Federal Office Buildings near the Casino. They don’t want to go to Pimisi or Lyon to transfer. It’s not all about Alylmer/Quebec people going to Ottawa, but Ottawa people working in Quebec/Hull.
  17. Looks like OC are trying to get as many buses delivered as quickly as possible. By forgoing the padding on seats (which is really a minor issue at worst), Nova can likely get the buses done slightly faster and delivered to them more quickly. Looking back, November 27 to January 13 (today) and we have slightly more than 3/4 of the order in service already. 4734-4736, 4759, 4761, and 4763-4775 are the only ones not in service yet. In comparison, it took 4601-4682 four and a half months (April- late August 2019) to all enter service. That's not a bad guess considering OC had to consider putting 40 Inveros back into service PLUS loaning or buying buses from other cities at one point. Speaking of the Inveros, only 4277 has been put back into service. I don't really know the status of the other recently retired units. Edit: Did I really just say cuties instead of cities?? 🤣🤣 Cuties they're not. Spelling error corrected.
  18. Wasn't that because when planning for stage 1, they left to decision on if there would be street running or not for planning of stage 2?
  19. Definitely great questions from everyone! Can't wait to see those interviews Shane and hopefully some behind the scenes content (I think we would all love to see a control centre BTS). My questions would be as follow; though you will notice they go beyond LRT. Feel free to redirect them to the person you might think is better suited to answer them as I might be mixing up the scope of their work. - Mr Watson, the city of Ottawa is currently updating its TMP, a process that will take many years. However, many issues affect transit ridership and the trust of people in OC Transpo, such as the reliability of service, frequency and capacity on some routes, the cost of ridership and the implementation of new service. While waiting for the updated TMP, how does the city plan to support the increasing need for connected mobility, ranging from transit, cycling and walking? - Mr Charter, the extension of the Trillium Line south of Greenboro will result in a "double lining" of high-frequency services along the alignment, as high-frequency bus routes continue to Hurdman. What are the plans for operation beyond Greenboro following the opening of the extended Trillium? - Mr Morgan, Bayview station will become, with the expansion of the Trillium Line, an important interchange and see major redevelopment in its surroundings. It has been mentioned on multiple occasions that Line 2 will have two platforms at Bayview. How will this operate once completed and why is there a need for such doubling in the first place? And more of a wildcard question: - Now that Stage 2 is being built, what lays forward for the O-Train network? Can we expect some sort of "commuter rail" service similar to the first generation Trillium Line?
  20. Remember that D40 I was talking about that was used in a mock trial in 2011? Here's the photo if anyone's interested: This photo came from the CPTDB forum by user OC Transpo 8238. You can see that 9215 is totally crushed and only the front end is present.
  21. Good questions so far. Keep them coming!
  22. Another question for Troy Charter: Two of the "O" beacons at Lyon Station fell in November. When will they be replaced?
  23. Thanks for providing us an opportunity to present questions. I any of my questions are chosen, feel free to re-word in a more cohesive way. Michael Morgan Will Stage 2 Trillium work future-proof the line in a way that avoids shut-downs once we're ready to double track/electrify? On the Alstom Citadis trains currently running on Line 1, information screens (displaying the current time, next station, final destination) were only installed over gangways on one side therefore, if a passenger sits on a seat facing the other side, or stands the other way, they are unable to see that information. Will the Stage 2 trains have display screens on both sides of each module? The latest round of Stage 2 consultations seem to suggest that "a minimum of one elevator" will be built for each platform. Are we moving away from the Stage 1 policy of double (redundant) elevators? Troy Charter What is the progress in adding the additional 14th and 15th train to regular service? Will Stage 2 trains be placed in regular rotation with Stage 1 fleet once they’ve been fully tested? Jim Watson We’ve had conflicting reports regarding the future of the PoW. Is there still a possibility that the Trillium Line might one day cross over to Gatineau using the PoW?
  24. Jim Watson : How far is the city of Ottawa in the negotiations for Stage 3 with the Provincial and Federal governments ? Troy Charter: One of the LRT"s promises was to "get bus and cars of the road", did we notice any significant or marginal decrease in road traffic after de LRT opening. Micheal Morgan: Today the Confederation line runs, operates and has equivalent capacity and frequency to a normal metro/subway line. Why not have went for a more classic "High-Floor" design ? and does the city regret this choice especially with the current reliability problems ?
  25. Wow, that will really be a good opportunity for you! Good luck! Here are some questions that I can think of: For Jim Watson: What have been the main effects of the Confederation Line on Ottawa as a city since its opening? What are you expecting stage 2 to bring to the city? For Michael Morgan: Is there any plan for a park&ride at Moodie station? The current design doesn't seem to include one, but it would be more efficient for most park&ride users in Kanata to park there directly rather than have to park at Eagleson and take a bus to Moodie. How are you going to take into account the issues with stage 1 while building and testing stage 2? What will be the main things that will need to be changed for phase 2 according to the feedback received from stage 1? Where do things stand currently with Phase 2 construction? What is expected for this spring and summer?
  26. Good evening, I have several new interviews planned in the very near future. I do have a prepared scenario and questions all planned out but I would like to include a short portion where I ask your questions. Please keep in mind, unfortunately it will not be possible for all questions will be asked due to time limitations. As such, I will take a short selection of questions for each planned interview. The people next up for interviews are: Jim Watson, Mayor of the City of Ottawa. Troy Charter, Director of Transit Operations. Michael Morgan, Director of Rail Construction. Please keep questions appropriate, respectful and on topic. I will try my best to include a couple in each of the interviews. Please also specify to whom your question pertains. Thank you all for your interest.
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